TMMF #025 · September 11, 2024

The Emotional Targeting Expert

Mastering B2B Conversion Optimization & Crafting Resonant Messaging.

Guest: Talia Wolf Messaging Show notes

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“When B2B buyers are on a website, they’re not just thinking about the features, the pricing. They’re not just thinking about the technology. They’re also thinking about their own personal benefits.”

In this episode, we dive deep into the world of emotional targeting and conversion rate optimization with Talia Wolf, CEO at Getuplift. With a background in social media marketing and years of experience optimizing conversions for B2B brands, Talia shares her insights on leveraging emotional resonance to drive growth.

We explore Talia’s unique approach to conversion optimization, which focuses on understanding customers’ emotional drivers before analyzing website data. She explains how this customer-first methodology leads to more impactful hypotheses and test ideas.

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At 02:46, Chris and Talia dig into talia’s journey from social media to cro — a useful jump-in point if you want the practical part of this episode without scanning the whole conversation
At 06:26, Chris and Talia dig into the power of emotional targeting in b2b — a useful jump-in point if you want the practical part of this episode without scanning the whole conversation
At 11:42, Chris and Talia dig into conducting effective customer research — a useful jump-in point if you want the practical part of this episode without scanning the whole conversation
At 16:28, Chris and Talia dig into creating value propositions that resonate — a useful jump-in point if you want the practical part of this episode without scanning the whole conversation
At 21:28, Chris and Talia dig into testing messaging across different channels — a useful jump-in point if you want the practical part of this episode without scanning the whole conversation

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Start with the idea you need, then jump into the full episode when something catches.

Talia’s journey from social media to CRO

At 02:46, Chris and Talia dig into talia’s journey from social media to cro — a useful jump-in point if you want the practical part of this episode without scanning the whole conversation.

The power of emotional targeting in B2B

At 06:26, Chris and Talia dig into the power of emotional targeting in b2b — a useful jump-in point if you want the practical part of this episode without scanning the whole conversation.

Conducting effective customer research

At 11:42, Chris and Talia dig into conducting effective customer research — a useful jump-in point if you want the practical part of this episode without scanning the whole conversation.

Creating value propositions that resonate

At 16:28, Chris and Talia dig into creating value propositions that resonate — a useful jump-in point if you want the practical part of this episode without scanning the whole conversation.

Testing messaging across different channels

At 21:28, Chris and Talia dig into testing messaging across different channels — a useful jump-in point if you want the practical part of this episode without scanning the whole conversation.

Balancing features and emotional benefits

At 26:03, Chris and Talia dig into balancing features and emotional benefits — a useful jump-in point if you want the practical part of this episode without scanning the whole conversation.

Overcoming challenges in B2B messaging

At 31:08, Chris and Talia dig into overcoming challenges in b2b messaging — a useful jump-in point if you want the practical part of this episode without scanning the whole conversation.

Talia’s approach to continuous learning

At 36:27, Chris and Talia dig into talia’s approach to continuous learning — a useful jump-in point if you want the practical part of this episode without scanning the whole conversation.

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